Creativity Squared: Looking for Different with Damien Guiol and Samy Benama
Damien Guiol and Samy Benama are pure products of the Change Group.
After working at Leg, Havas and Native, they made their debut at Brand Station (a Change subsidiary) as a creative team and were appointed creative directors of Brand Station in 2018. In 2021 they were appointed CCOs of the Change Group, an FCB alliance.
Here they give us a sample of what their creative approach looks like.
Person
天美棋牌> How would you describe your personality?
We thought the best way to answer this question was for each of us to answer for the other.
Samy> Damien is intuitive, quick-witted and a go-getter. He has the ability to put 100% of his energy into bringing ideas to life, without asking questions.
Damien> Samy is intuitive, quick-witted and a go-getter. He has the ability to put a 100% of his energy into bringing ideas to life, without asking questions.
Samy and Damien> Lol
天美棋牌> How do you like to see the world?
Damien> Through my childhood eyes.
Samy> I appreciate less and less seeing the world through a screen, if that鈥檚 an acceptable answer.
天美棋牌> Do you think creativity is something that鈥檚 innate or something that you learn?
Damien> There are 7.7 billion creative people, artists. It is innate. Those who use this creativity for marketing have to filter it through the observation and understanding of people.
Samy> At the very beginning of my career, I thought nature had given me a gift. Then I realized I wasn鈥檛 that talented, so I started working. Therefore, I鈥檇 say you have to acquire it.
天美棋牌> Would you consider yourself an introvert or extravert 鈥 or something else?
Damien> Introextravert
Samy> Like an introvert who fakes being an extravert.
天美棋牌> How do you feel about routine?
Damien> My routine is not to have one. Aside from a few cups of coffee at key moments throughout the day, haha.
Samy> My routine is very strict in the morning鈥 Then freestyle the rest of the day.
天美棋牌> When it comes to creative 鈥榮tuff鈥 that you enjoy, do you like things that are similar to the work you do or do you enjoy exploring?
Samy> I tend to look at creative things I鈥檝e never done and would like to do in the future.
Damien> Observing stuff allows us to nourish our creative work, develop it, make it different each time鈥 It鈥檚 a virtuous cycle.
Product
天美棋牌> How do you assess whether an idea or a piece of work is truly creative? What are your criteria?
Damien> I like that moment when I tell myself that I would have liked to have had this idea, or that the idea is surprising, clever, smart. Then it has to go through a first filter: 鈥渄oes it serve the brand?鈥 If it passes those two steps, we鈥檙e on the right track.
Samy> First, I try mostly to trust my initial reaction when I discover the idea. That鈥檚 often the best criterion. The other criteria are, 鈥渋s it true? Is it useful? Is it original? Is it surprising? And, lastly, would I have loved to have had this idea?鈥 That last criterion is particularly efficient.
Damien> Ah I forgot one important criterion: whether Samy loves the idea or not.
天美棋牌> Has that criteria shifted or evolved over the years?
Damien> A bit with the times, different trends鈥 and as we grow older, our advertising culture tends to grow too (at least I hope it does haha) and weighs in the balance. But it is crucial to keep the freshness and carelessness of the early days.
Samy> Let鈥檚 just say that the list of criteria is getting longer, but the best ones are still the same ones.
天美棋牌> What creative campaigns are your proudest of and why?
Damien> The last little social media post for one of our brands. To build our brands, we have to be proud of everything and intransigent with any campaign.
Samy> Poulehouse. Because it is an advertising UFO in the egg industry, and because the cause behind our film is a beautiful one.
天美棋牌> Overall, what do you make of the industry鈥檚 creative output right now? What鈥檚 exciting you about it or frustrating you?
Samy> What excites me the most is the infinite number of creative possibilities that new tech has to offer, as well as the fusion between the worlds of media, entertainment, social and advertising. What excites me a bit less is the formatting of ideas. Nowadays, everyone wants to save the world, but everyone isn鈥檛 Patagonia.
Damien> But can Patagonia save the world? Haha. I hope I鈥檒l be able to answer this question through the answer to the previous question in our next interview.
Process
天美棋牌> How do you like to start a campaign or creative project?
Samy: Isolated in a corner, with my headphones on, ready to dive into the subject for at least an hour.
天美棋牌> Are there any tools or platforms (analogue or digital) that you find particularly helpful for gathering or iterating ideas?
Samy> Of course, many. Classic ones such as Twitter, Reddit and Instagram. And other creative platforms like Love The Work, Adsoftheworld, Trendhunter and 天美棋牌 Online of course, the best of all (no worries, this product placement is free).
Damien> We invite you to click on this link: and to choose your subscription. (No worries, this second product placement is free too.)
天美棋牌> Are there any techniques that you鈥檝e tried that just didn鈥檛 gel with you, why?
Samy> I鈥檝e seen many copywriters draw 鈥榓ssociation of ideas trees鈥 on their notebooks. I tried once, wrote three words down and got lost in my thoughts.
Damien> I don鈥檛 know if I鈥檝e tried many, but I鈥檓 sure I haven鈥檛 found the right one. Do you have a solution for me?
天美棋牌> Do you like to start every project as a blank sheet or are you constantly collecting possible inspiration or references for future projects?
Samy> I feel like it鈥檚 possible to answer positively to both. Collecting inspiration on a daily basis is essential, and moreover, it helps in starting each new project in order to come up with something new.
Damien> Every subject is different, so I don鈥檛 think we should start them in the same manner. We shouldn鈥檛 fall into a routine, but rather cultivate our creativity鈥檚 magic and agility.
天美棋牌> Do you prefer to work collaboratively or alone?
Samy> I like to meditate on my own and discuss with others afterwards, on the basis of our individual thoughts.
Damien> Both, and in both ways.
天美棋牌> When it comes to the hard bits of a project, when you鈥檙e stumped, do you have a process or something you like to do for getting past those tricky bits?
Samy> I don鈥檛 know any magical formula to get out of a creative impasse, I would say you only need to step outside your bubble. Talk to a strategist, a creative colleague, your wife, a friend, your grandma鈥 And if after that you鈥檙e still stumped, go for a run and a shower鈥 everyone knows that鈥檚 when the best ideas come to you.
Damien> Those are actually the times when I don鈥檛 ask myself any question. Let鈥檚 push ahead, and with a bit of luck, this freedom of thought will bring us the solution鈥 or not.
When you鈥檙e working with a group, where you might be helping someone else with their process.
天美棋牌> How do you know when a piece of work is 鈥榙one鈥?
Samy> When we鈥檙e obligated to hand in our work. If we had unlimited deadlines, we would try to improve our projects over and over, and it would become annoying.
Damien> It鈥檚 never over. But as Samy so accurately points out, you have to know when to stop.
Press
天美棋牌> Where did you grow up and what early experiences do you think sowed the seeds of your creativity?
Samy> I grew up in the suburbs of Lyon. I don鈥檛 think this beautiful region necessarily brought me anything creatively speaking, but it allowed me to meet people from very different horizons and social origins. And this definitely opened my mind and developed my curiosity.
Damien> Coming from very different horizons gives our point of view a larger scale. The world changes so fast, trends too, so the factors are never the same ones. As for the mood: see, I already want to answer differently.
天美棋牌> How did you hone your craft?
Samy> I am a 90s-2000s kid, so the pop culture from those years influenced me a lot (Dragon Ball Z, Snoop Dogg, The Matrix, etc.), nothing very original. After, the great campaigns from brands like Smart or Volkswagen (around 2010) gave me a hint of what advertising excellency is. And the more I write this answer, the more I realize it might become way too long so I鈥檒l summarise it by saying 鈥淚 honed my craft by drawing inspiration from everything I saw, read, and felt since I was born鈥. There.
Damien> The day I understood that the meaning had to serve the idea, and not the contrary.
天美棋牌> When it comes to your own creativity, what external factors can really help you fly, and what do you find frustrates it?
Samy> What helps: good stress, a good atmosphere in the team, to be surrounded by passionate people, to have comfortable deadlines (but not too comfortable), and enough budget. What doesn鈥檛 help: the opposite of what I鈥檝e just written.
Damien> To me, being a team is our greatest strength, so I鈥檒l answer in 4 letters: Samy.
天美棋牌> What advice would you give to clients looking to get the best out of the teams and agencies they worked with?
Samy> Trust them, give them some time, speak with the creative teams, and before anything else, try to define your marketing objectives clearly to give them a clean-cut brief that can鈥檛 be misinterpreted.
Damien> French ad legend Jacques S茅gu茅la often says: 鈥渇ewer tests, more balls鈥. Listen to yourselves a bit more, have convictions, and trust yourselves. Love what you buy, you are the first to be convinced, never the last one.
天美棋牌> How do you think agencies can best facilitate creativity in terms of culture and design?
Samy> I don鈥檛 really know, the subject is vast. Maybe by creating more gateways and common projects between agencies and the sectors of culture and design.
Damien> Andy Warhol, Vasarely鈥 many artists have done advertising and vice versa - advertising has inspired so many artists. To use craft, beauty, and meaning to tell a story and sell a product all contribute. If we can raise the bar when it comes to two TV reality shows, that鈥檚 a good start, isn鈥檛 it?
